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Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge
Date: 2024/03/28 18:24
Name: Vipin Kumar

Dear Users,
I have doubts about the exact physical meaning of negative and positive signs in the net charge. The net charge is calculated by Z-N, Z=valance electrons in the pseudopotentials, and N is the Mulliken population. I have calculated the net charge in the WS2 structure.

The net charges for W= 0.375 and S=-0.198

It means W can donate 0.375e charge to the nearby bonding atoms and S can receive 0.198e charge from the bonding atom. Is it correct, if not, then please give the correct explanation.


I adsorbed CO gas molecule on the top of the S atom. The corresponding net charges are

S -0.041
C 0.32
O -0.365

How can we analyze the charge transfer from/to WS2 to/from CO molecule? Any help in this regard would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Vipin
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Re: Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge ( No.1 )
Date: 2024/03/30 11:08
Name: Vipin Kumar

Dear Y.-T. Lee,
Could you please help me in this regard?
Thank you very much.
Regards,
Vipin
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Re: Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge ( No.2 )
Date: 2024/03/31 04:31
Name: Yung-Ting Lee

Dear Vipin,

Q1: I think that your explanation is correct. Or, you can test a CO2 molecule. The net charge result will be the same as your explanation.

Q2: A simple case can be
(1) Calculate net charges of an isolated CO molecule and an isolated WS2 surface.
(2) Calculate net charges of a CO molecule adsorbed on WS2 surface.
Check the net charge difference of atoms between (CO/WS2 surface) and (CO adsorbed on WS2 surface).
One may know the net charge difference easily.

Best regards,
Yung-Ting Lee
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Re: Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge ( No.3 )
Date: 2024/03/31 15:32
Name: Vipin Kumar

Dear Lee,
Thank you very much for your prompt response. I request you to clear one more doubt:

I have calculated the net charge on individual atoms in CO adsorbed WS2 using net charge scheme available in the OpenMX viewer. I get the following

charge on W=0.375 and S=-0.198 Then, the net charge on WS2 will be equal to (net charge on W-atom+2xnet charge on the S-atom)=0.375+2x-0.198= -0.021. That means the net charge on WS2 will be -0.021e.

Similarly, for CO molecule, it will be (net charge on C-atom+net charge on O-atom)=0.320 + (-0.365)=-0.045e, then the net charge on CO molecule is -0.045e.

Is it the right way to calculate the net charge on WS2 and CO molecule? Any help in this regards will be appreciated.
Thank you very much.

Regards,
Vipin
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Re: Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge ( No.4 )
Date: 2024/04/01 05:27
Name: Yung-Ting Lee

Dear Vipin,

(1) One may notice that the net charge of S atom bonding with CO is different from that of S atom bonding without CO.

After CO adsorption, S atoms' net charge should be different.

One can not treat S=-0.198 e for all S atoms when CO adsorption on WS2 surface structure.


(2) For CO adsorption on a WS2 surface, CO is connected to S atom(s) (the surface layer / the top layer), not W atom(s) in the middle layer and the other S atom(s) in the bottom layer.

For the discussion on charge redistribution during CO adsorption on the WS2 surface, consider focusing on atoms that form bonds between CO and S atom(s).


(3) You can check how other researchers usually define/calculate the net charge for an atom or a molecule on a surface from their published Journal papers.

Also, textbooks often give some examples.


(4)  For your reference,
Viet Q Bui et. al. discussed about "CO adsorption on a WS2 monolayer" in 2015 in J. Phys.: Condens. Matter 27, 305005.
Table 3 is "Charge transfer from the WS2 layer to gas molecules (CO, H2O, NO, and O2)".


Best regards,
Yung-Ting Lee
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Re: Physical meaning of positive and negative net charge ( No.5 )
Date: 2024/04/01 13:16
Name: Vipin Kumar

Dear Lee,
Thank you very much for your help.
With regards,
Vipin
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